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Mon Nov 2318:32Cavs complete trade for McGee, agree to re-sign DellavedovaJordan BellCCavaliersFree Agent
Matthew DellavedovaPGCavaliersFree Agent
Andre DrummondCCavaliersFree Agent
Darius GarlandPGCavaliersFree Agent
Marc GasolCRaptorsFree Agent
JaVale McGeeCLakersFree Agent
Alfonzo McKinnieSFCavaliersFree Agent
Collin SextonSGCavaliersFree Agent
Tristan ThompsonCCavaliersFree Agent
CLEVELAND (AP) — The Cavaliers have found either a temporary replacement for Tristan Thompson or an asset to bring in other talent. Cleveland announced Monday it has acquired center JaVale McGee and a 2026 second-round draft pick from the Los Angeles Lakers for forwards Alfonzo McKinnie and Jordan Bell. The teams agreed to the deal on Sunday but needed league approval before finalizing it. Also, the team has a worked out an agreement with free agent guard Matthew Dellavedova, one of the Cavs' most popular players. McGee, who won NBA titles during two seasons with Golden State before two in Los Angeles, gives the Cavaliers a proven front-line player who can protect the rim and give starting center Andre Drummond a break. The 30-year-old McGee also has an expiring contract, which makes him appealing to teams looking to create salary-cap space. The Lakers needed to move McGee to make room for free agent center Marc Gasol. Thompson left the Cavs last week, agreeing to a two-year free age... [More]
Mon Nov 2318:22Montrezl Harrell: Lakers wanted me more than Clippers didNick YoungSGWarriorsFree Agent
Matt BarnesSFKingsFree Agent
Kentavious Caldwell-PopeSG/SFLakersFree Agent
Alex CarusoPGLakersFree Agent
Anthony DavisPFLakersFree Agent
Jared DudleySF/PFLakersFree Agent
Paul GeorgeSGClippersFree Agent
Montrezl HarrellCClippersFree Agent
Talen Horton-TuckerSGLakersFree Agent
Dwight HowardCLakersFree Agent
LeBron JamesPGLakersFree Agent
Kyle KuzmaPFLakersFree Agent
Kawhi LeonardSFClippersFree Agent
JaVale McGeeCLakersFree Agent
Markieff MorrisPFLakersFree Agent
LOS ANGELES (AP) — Montrezl Harrell did not make the trip lightly when he moved down the Staples Center hallway last weekend to join the Los Angeles Lakers. The NBA's reigning Sixth Man of the Year realizes the gravity of his decision to leave the Los Angeles Clippers after three seasons — and to leave them for their bigger, more successful intra-city rivals, no less. The decision turned out to be surprisingly simple, though. According to Harrell, the NBA champion Lakers made it clear they badly wanted him in the opening minutes of free agency. The Clippers did not. “If you spend your career in any place long enough, you're going to want to continue playing there and growing there,” Harrell said Monday. “Of course, I still have great respect for those guys and for that organization. But as far as if they wanted me back? Obviously, it just doesn't seem that way, does it?” The tenacious forward who plays much bigger than his 6-foot-7 frame agreed to a two-year deal during the... [More]
Mon Nov 2317:12Wizards GM says John Wall not on trading block: 'No issues'Bradley BealSGWizardsFree Agent
Davis BertansPFWizardsFree Agent
Thomas BryantCWizardsFree Agent
James HardenSGRocketsFree Agent
Robin LopezCBucksFree Agent
Raul NetoPG76ersFree Agent
John WallPGWizardsFree Agent
WASHINGTON (AP) — Washington Wizards general manager Tommy Sheppard dropped by point guard John Wall’s workout Monday and they chatted. About their kids. About Thanksgiving Day plans. About their favorite NFL team, the Dallas Cowboys. What they didn’t discuss, according to Sheppard, was the possibility of Washington dealing Wall elsewhere. “There’s no plans to trade John,” were the first words spoken by Sheppard during a video conference Monday, when most questions from reporters were about the five-time All-Star who was the No. 1 overall pick in the NBA draft. Wall missed all of last season, and most of 2018-19, too, with injuries to his left heel, then Achilles tendon, and reports surfaced in recent days that he requested a trade. Sheppard downplayed that with training camp set to begin next week, saying Wall “didn’t request” to be moved when they spoke Monday. He said he and Wall speak “pretty much every other day” and characterized their relationship as “ver... [More]
Sun Nov 2221:02AP source: Cavaliers acquire McGee, 2026 pick from LakersJordan BellCCavaliersFree Agent
Andre DrummondCCavaliersFree Agent
JaVale McGeeCLakersFree Agent
Alfonzo McKinnieSFCavaliersFree Agent
Tristan ThompsonCCavaliersFree Agent
CLEVEAND (AP) — Looking to replace Tristan Thompson, the Cavaliers have acquired center JaVale McGee and a future draft pick from the Los Angeles Lakers for forwards Alfonzo McKinnie and Jordan Bell, a person familiar with the deal told The Associated Press on Sunday night. The Cavs will get a second-round pick in 2026 from the Lakers, said the person who spoke on condition of anonymity because the teams have not announced the swap. On Saturday, Thompson, who played nine seasons with the Cavs and helped them win a championship in 2016, agreed to a two-year, free-agent deal with the Boston Celtics. The 32-year-old McGee spent the past two seasons with Los Angeles after two with Golden State. The 7-footer averaged 6.6 points, 5.7 rebounds and 1.5 blocks for the NBA champions this past season. The Lakers needed to move McGee in order to open up salary space after getting Marc Gasol to agree to a two-year contract. McGee will likely serve as a backup to Cleveland center Andre Drummond, who picked up his $28 million player option last week to stay with the Cavs. ___ More AP NBA: https://apnews.com/NBA and https://twitter.com/AP_Sports
Sun Nov 2220:32AP source: Cavaliers acquire McGee, 2026 pick from LakersJordan BellCCavaliersFree Agent
Andre DrummondCCavaliersFree Agent
JaVale McGeeCLakersFree Agent
Alfonzo McKinnieSFCavaliersFree Agent
Tristan ThompsonCCavaliersFree Agent
CLEVEAND (AP) — Looking to replace Tristan Thompson, the Cavaliers have acquired center JaVale McGee and a future draft pick from the Los Angeles Lakers for forwards Alfonzo McKinnie and Jordan Bell, a person familiar with the deal told The Associated Press on Sunday night. The Cavs will get a second-round pick in 2026 from the Lakers, said the person who spoke on condition of anonymity because the teams have not announced the swap. On Saturday, Thompson, who played nine seasons with the Cavs and helped them win a championship in 2016, agreed to a two-year, free-agent deal with the Boston Celtics. The 32-year-old McGee spent the past two seasons with Los Angeles after two with Golden State. The 7-footer averaged 6.6 points, 5.7 rebounds and 1.5 blocks for the NBA champions this past season. The Lakers needed to move McGee in order to open up salary space after getting Marc Gasol to agree to a two-year contract. McGee will likely serve as a backup to Cleveland center Andre Drummond, who picked up his $28 million player option last week to stay with the Cavs. ___ More AP NBA: https://apnews.com/NBA and https://twitter.com/AP_Sports
Sun Nov 2218:12Warriors acquire guard Oubre from Thunder for draft picksKlay ThompsonSGWarriorsFree Agent
Kelly OubreSFSunsFree Agent
Chris PaulPGThunderFree Agent
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Guard Kelly Oubre is joining the Golden State Warriors to give the team backcourt depth in the wake of Klay Thompson's latest injury, with Oubre acquired Sunday in a trade from the Oklahoma City Thunder. The Warriors will send a conditional 2021 first-round draft pick and a 2021 second-round selection — via Denver — to Oklahoma City in the swap. Thompson will miss the season after suffering a torn right Achilles tendon playing a pickup game in Southern California on Wednesday. He already sat out the coronavirus-shortened season recovering from surgery for a torn ACL in his left knee that he hurt in the Raptors' clinching Game 6 victory of the 2019 NBA Finals. “We’ve got to look hard and look fast,” Warriors general manager Bob Myers said Thursday when Golden State introduced No. 2 overall draft pick James Wiseman and second-rounder Nico Mannion at Chase Center. “But I’ve got some great guys I work with that are working right now on what we can do. A... [More]
Sun Nov 2217:11Pacers re-sign Justin Holiday, keeping brother duo in tactJustin HolidaySG/SFPacersFree Agent
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Justin Holiday will continue playing for the Indiana Pacers next season after agreeing to a new deal Sunday. Terms of the deal were not immediately announced but the decision means Holiday and one of his two NBA-playing brothers, Aaron, will be teammates again next season. Both played primarily as backups but held key roles in helping the Pacers make the playoffs. Justin Holiday averaged 8.3 points, 3.3 rebounds, 1.3 assists and a team-high 1.2 steals last season while shooting a career-high 40.5% on 3-pointers. He finished 19th in the NBA in 3-point percentage. “Re-signing Justin was one of our main priorities going into free agency,” Pacers president of basketball operations Kevin Pritchard said in a statement released by the team. “His contributions last season were tremendous. He can play multiple positions and is extremely versatile. He also represents this franchise as a true professional, on and off the court.” Previously, Holiday played for Memphis, Chicago, Atlanta, Golden State, Philadelphia and the New York Knicks. His other brother, Jrue, is heading to Central Division rival Milwaukee in a trade. ___ More AP NBA: https://apnews.com/NBA and https://twitter.com/AP_Sports
Sun Nov 2215:01Pacers re-sign Justin Holiday, keeping brother duo in tactJustin HolidaySG/SFPacersFree Agent
INDIANAPOLIS (AP) — Justin Holiday will continue playing for the Indiana Pacers next season after agreeing to a new deal Sunday. Terms of the deal were not immediately announced but the decision means Holiday and one of his two NBA-playing brothers, Aaron, will be teammates again next season. Both played primarily as backups but held key roles in helping the Pacers make the playoffs. Justin Holiday averaged 8.3 points, 3.3 rebounds, 1.3 assists and a team-high 1.2 steals last season while shooting a career-high 40.5% on 3-pointers. He finished 19th in the NBA in 3-point percentage. “Re-signing Justin was one of our main priorities going into free agency,” Pacers president of basketball operations Kevin Pritchard said in a statement released by the team. “His contributions last season were tremendous. He can play multiple positions and is extremely versatile. He also represents this franchise as a true professional, on and off the court.” Previously, Holiday played for Memphis, Chicago, Atlanta, Golden State, Philadelphia and the New York Knicks. His other brother, Jrue, is heading to Central Division rival Milwaukee in a trade. ___ More AP NBA: https://apnews.com/NBA and https://twitter.com/AP_Sports
Sat Nov 2103:11AP source: Ariza on move again as OKC, Dallas, Detroit dealTrevor ArizaSFTrailblazersFree Agent
Trey BurkePGMavericksFree Agent
Luka DoncicSGMavericksFree Agent
Justin JacksonSFMavericksFree Agent
Kristaps PorzingisPFMavericksFree Agent
Josh RichardsonSG76ersFree Agent
Delon WrightPGMavericksFree Agent
Trevor Ariza is on the move for the third time this week, going to Oklahoma City from Detroit along with Dallas' Justin Jackson in a three-team trade. Also in the deal, the Mavericks sent Delon Wright to the Pistons for James Johnson, a person with knowledge of the details said early Saturday. Ariza was sent from Portland to Houston two days before the draft, then shipped to the Pistons on draft night Wednesday. The 35-year-old has already played for 10 teams. The person spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the deal hasn't been announced. It was first reported by the New York Times. The Mavericks added Johnson to provide some toughness around young stars Luka Doncic and Kristaps Porzingis. Dallas was defensive-minded on draft night, taking Arizona's Josh Green in the first round and trading for Philadelphia's Josh Richardson. Point guard Trey Burke and the Mavericks agreed on a $10 million, three-year contract for the free agent to return after a strong show... [More]
Fri Nov 2022:51Nets to re-sign Joe Harris, meeting top offseason priorityJoe HarrisSFNetsFree Agent
Kyrie IrvingPGNetsFree Agent
Kevin DurantSFNetsFree Agent
NEW YORK (AP) — Joe Harris has agreed to re-sign with the Nets, keeping one of the NBA’s best shooters in Brooklyn. The Nets checked off what general manager Sean Marks called their biggest priority in free agency on Friday night by agreeing to a deal with the swingman. Priority Sports, which represents Harris, announced the deal on Twitter. ESPN reported that Harris would get $75 million over four years. Harris finished his fourth season in Brooklyn by averaging a career-best 14.5 points in 69 games in 2019-20. Earlier Friday, Marks reiterated the importance of keeping Harris on a team with championship aspirations with Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving set to return from injuries next month. “Joe’s an intricate piece to the program here. Not only what he does and what everybody sees on the court, but it’s off the court as well,” Marks said. “Joe’s been through it with us. Been through the bubble, he’s seen this program develop. He’s developed alongside this program... [More]
Thu Nov 1923:00Bucks request waivers on Turkish forward Ersan IlyasovaErsan IlyasovaPFBucksFree Agent
MILWAUKEE (AP) — The Milwaukee Bucks have requested waivers on Turkish forward Ersan Ilyasova. Ilyasova played 63 games and made eight starts for the Bucks last season. The 6-foot-9 forward averaged 6.6 points, 4.8 rebounds and 15.7 minutes. This marked the 33-year-old Ilyasova’s third stint with the Bucks. He began his career with Milwaukee in 2006-07 and also played for the Bucks from 2009-15 and from 2018-20. Ilyasova also has played for Detroit, Orlando, Atlanta, Philadelphia and Oklahoma City. He has career averages of 10.3 points and 5.7 rebounds in 808 career regular-season games, including 423 starts. ___ More AP NBA: https://apnews.com/NBA and https://twitter.com/AP_Sports
Thu Nov 1922:30Clippers bolster supporting cast around Leonard, GeorgeBruce BrownSGPistonsFree Agent
Paul GeorgeSGClippersFree Agent
Jaylen HandsPGNetsFree Agent
Luke KennardSGPistonsFree Agent
Kawhi LeonardSFClippersFree Agent
Rodney McGruderSFClippersFree Agent
Dzanan MusaSFNetsFree Agent
Justin PattonCPistonsFree Agent
Landry ShametSGClippersFree Agent
LOS ANGELES (AP) — The Los Angeles Clippers acquired guard Luke Kennard from Detroit, and sent guards Landry Shamet to Brooklyn and Rodney McGruder to Detroit as they attempt to improve the supporting cast around Kawhi Leonard and Paul George. In addition to Kennard, the Clippers received center Justin Patton from the Pistons in the draft-night deal, as well as the draft rights to junior-college player Jay Scrubb and four second-round picks (2023 via Portland, and 2024, 2025 and 2026 via Detroit). "The draft assets allow us the opportunity to continue drafting and developing young talent, or otherwise explore trade opportunities, for years to come,” Lawrence Frank, Clippers president of basketball operations, said Thursday in confirming the moves. Kennard missed most of last season due to knee tendinitis. Over 28 games, he averaged career highs in points (15.8), assists (4.1) and rebounds (3.5) as a starter for Detroit. “Luke is a young, ascending player who has worked hard to es... [More]
Thu Nov 1921:00AP source: Celtics' Hayward opts out of final year of dealGordon HaywardSFCelticsFree Agent
BOSTON (AP) — Boston Celtics forward Gordon Hayward opted out of the final year of a contract that would have paid him $34.1 million, making him a free agent, a person familiar with the situation said Thursday The person spoke on the condition of anonymity because the decision has not been publicly announced. Hayward could still re-sign with the team, either to remain in Boston or be part of a sign-and-trade deal that would open up more potential destinations. The Celtics did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Brad Stevens, who also coached Hayward in college at Butler, recruited Hayward to Boston in 2017 and the team signed him to a four-year, $128 million deal that made him the biggest free agent signing in franchise history. But Hayward snapped his leg in the first quarter of his first game, missing all of the 2017-18 season. He averaged 26 minutes and 11.5 points the next year — far below his numbers in Utah -- and began to return to his previous form in the bub... [More]
Thu Nov 1919:40Thompson has torn Achilles tendon, expected to miss seasonStephen CurryPGWarriorsFree Agent
Draymond GreenPFWarriorsFree Agent
Klay ThompsonSGWarriorsFree Agent
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Bob Myers called Stephen Curry to break the devastating news that Klay Thompson had torn his Achilles and would miss another season. Silence on the other end. Myers, the Golden State general manager, made the same call to Draymond Green. Again, only quiet. Thompson tore his right Achilles tendon playing in a pickup game Wednesday and had an MRI exam Thursday in Los Angeles that revealed the severity of the injury that typically requires surgery. Right after Thompson worked himself back from knee surgery in early July 2019, now this, another year on the sideline. The Warriors aren’t ready to say what the next steps are for Thompson until they know more. “What hurts the most — and speaking on behalf of Klay, we will move on and we will be OK and he will be OK — but what hurts the most is the time we put into our jobs, the sacrifices we make to do what we do and to do what he does," Myers said. “And for him to have to now not be able to play basketball, t... [More]
Thu Nov 1918:30AP source: Mavs' Hardaway opting in, Cauley-Stein moving onWillie Cauley-SteinCMavericksFree Agent
Luka DoncicSGMavericksFree Agent
Tim HardawaySFMavericksFree Agent
Kristaps PorzingisPFMavericksFree Agent
DALLAS (AP) — Guard Tim Hardaway Jr. is opting in at $19 million for the final year of his contract with the Dallas Mavericks, while center Willie Cauley-Stein is moving on after declining his $2.3 million option. A person with knowledge of the decisions confirmed both moves to The Associated Press on Thursday on the condition of anonymity because no announcements were planned. Cauley-Stein becomes an unrestricted free agent. Hardaway shot a career-best 40% from 3-point range playing alongside 21-year-old sensation Luka Doncic as the Mavericks reached the playoffs for the first time in four years, losing to the Los Angeles Clippers in the first round. After coming over from New York in a trade along with headliner Kristaps Porzingis in February 2019, Hardaway averaged 19.3 points per game while becoming a full-time starter 14 games into his first full season with Dallas. The 28-year-old Hardaway figures to keep that starting role with rookie first-round pick Josh Green of Arizona pro... [More]
Thu Nov 1917:10AP source: Hawks trade Dedmon to Pistons for Snell, ThomasClint CapelaCHawksFree Agent
Dewayne DedmonCHawksFree Agent
Tony SnellSFPistonsFree Agent
Khyri ThomasSFPistonsFree Agent
ATLANTA (AP) — The Atlanta Hawks have agreed to trade center Dewayne Dedmon to the Detroit Pistons for guards Tony Snell and Khyri Thomas, a person with knowledge of the situation said Thursday. The person spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity because the trade needs approval from the NBA before becoming official. The deal allows the Hawks to clear a logjam at center. The Hawks selected center Onyeka Okongwu from Southern Cal with the No. 6 pick of the NBA draft on Wednesday night. Last season, the Hawks acquired center Clint Capela from Houston at the trade deadline. Capela was injured and didn’t play before Atlanta's season was halted by the coronavirus pandemic, but he's expected to play a key role next season. Snell, who turned 29 this month, averaged 8.0 points in 59 games in 2019-20, his first season with Detroit. The 6-foot-6 guard played three seasons for Milwaukee and three for Chicago prior to that. Thomas, a 6-foot-3 guard, has played two seasons with the Pistons since being drafted in the second round in 2018. He appeared in only eight games last season, averaging 7.7 minutes. Dedmon, 31, was acquired for his second stint with the Hawks last season as the team sought to bolster the center position. The 7-foot Dedmon averaged a career-best 10.8 points with 7.5 rebounds for Atlanta in the 2018-19 season. ___ More AP NBA: https://apnews.com/NBA and https://twitter.com/AP-Sports
Thu Nov 1915:30Thompson has torn Achilles tendon, expected to miss seasonStephen CurryPGWarriorsFree Agent
Klay ThompsonSGWarriorsFree Agent
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Golden State Warriors guard Klay Thompson has suffered a torn right Achilles tendon and is expected to miss the upcoming season, the team said Thursday. The team said in a tweet that an MRI performed in Los Angeles had confirmed the injury. Thompson was injured during a pickup game in Southern California on Wednesday. General manager Bob Myers had said athletic trainers would head to Southern California to accompany Thompson as he got his test. The injury could be a severe blow for the Warriors, who finished worst in the NBA last season as they struggled without Thompson and at times without Stephen Curry, who was nursing a broken left hand that sidelined him for more than four months. Thompson didn’t play at all during the coronavirus-shortened season as he worked back from surgery for a torn ACL in his left knee. He suffered that injury in the deciding Game 6 of the 2019 NBA Finals against the Toronto Raptors. Myers said Thompson’s injury had Golden State considering altering its draft decisions Wednesday night but the Warriors stuck with their plan to select Memphis center James Wiseman with the No. 2 overall selection. ___ More AP NBA: https://apnews.com/NBA and https://twitter.com/AP_Sports
Thu Nov 1914:50Knicks waive group of veterans ahead of NBA free agencyReggie BullockSFKnicksFree Agent
Wayne EllingtonSGKnicksFree Agent
Taj GibsonCKnicksFree Agent
Marcus MorrisSFClippersFree Agent
Elfrid PaytonPGKnicksFree Agent
Theo PinsonSGKnicksFree Agent
Bobby PortisPF/CKnicksFree Agent
Julius RandlePFKnicksFree Agent
Kenny WootenPFKnicksFree Agent
NEW YORK (AP) — The New York Knicks waived veterans Elfrid Payton, Taj Gibson and Wayne Ellington and declined their team option on Bobby Portis on Thursday, just a year after signing them in free agency. The Knicks signed all the veterans as part of a seven-player class in the summer of 2019. They enter free agency Friday with only Julius Randle and Reggie Bullock remaining from the group, having traded Marcus Morris to the Clippers during the season. Former Knicks President Steve Mills insisted at the start of last season that the Knicks got the players they wanted with that group. But successor Leon Rose cut most of them as he prepares to reshape one of the league's worst rosters. The moves have them well-positioned for free agency. Portis' option would have paid him $15.8 million in 2020-21. Gibson was due $9.5 million and Ellington and Payton were each set to earn $8 million. The Knicks also waived forward Kenny Wooten and declined their option on guard Theo Pinson. ___ More AP NBA: https://apnews.com/NBA and https://twitter.com/AP-Sports
Thu Nov 1914:20Knicks waive group of veterans ahead of NBA free agencyReggie BullockSFKnicksFree Agent
Wayne EllingtonSGKnicksFree Agent
Taj GibsonCKnicksFree Agent
Marcus MorrisSFClippersFree Agent
Elfrid PaytonPGKnicksFree Agent
Theo PinsonSGKnicksFree Agent
Bobby PortisPF/CKnicksFree Agent
Julius RandlePFKnicksFree Agent
Kenny WootenPFKnicksFree Agent
NEW YORK (AP) — The New York Knicks waived veterans Elfrid Payton, Taj Gibson and Wayne Ellington and declined their team option on Bobby Portis on Thursday, just a year after signing them in free agency. The Knicks signed all the veterans as part of a seven-player class in the summer of 2019. They enter free agency Friday with only Julius Randle and Reggie Bullock remaining from the group, having traded Marcus Morris to the Clippers during the season. Former Knicks President Steve Mills insisted at the start of last season that the Knicks got the players they wanted with that group. But successor Leon Rose cut most of them as he prepares to reshape one of the league's worst rosters. The moves have them well-positioned for free agency. Portis' option would have paid him $15.8 million in 2020-21. Gibson was due $9.5 million and Ellington and Payton were each set to earn $8 million. The Knicks also waived forward Kenny Wooten and declined their option on guard Theo Pinson. ___ More AP NBA: https://apnews.com/NBA and https://twitter.com/AP-Sports
Thu Nov 1901:30Warriors' Klay Thompson suffers leg injury, severity unclearKlay ThompsonSGWarriorsFree Agent
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Golden State guard Klay Thompson injured his lower right leg during a pickup game in Southern California and will undergo tests Thursday. “You can be hopeful, you can be concerned, probably all those things combined, and until we know more tomorrow I'll save my ... I'll just hope for good news," general manager Bob Myers said after Wednesday night's NBA draft. The team announced the injury without providing further details about the severity or any timeline for his availability with training camp starting Dec. 1 and the season beginning Dec. 22. Thompson was scheduled to be evaluated, and Myers expected to know more Thursday. Myers said the athletic trainers and possibly coach Steve Kerr would head to Southern California to accompany Thompson. “I guess this business teaches you to wait to hear for sure on any of these things,” Myers said. “Obviously dealing with some of the injuries we've dealt with in the last couple years, it doesn't harden you, it doe... [More]
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